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Mim - Thursday, December 27, 2001 at 12:57:37 (EST) URL: http:// Email: MBPenn@aol.com Comments: Looking for info re petroglyph title "Bull Althro and Spiral" Looking for artist D. Burgess who did series of water colors based on petroglyphs that I purchase years ago in Sante Fe NM. Any help or link is appreciated. Bradshaw Foundation - Thursday, December 20, 2001 at 06:17:27 (EST) URL: http://www.bradshawfoundation.com/hands Comments: A new website depicting the use of the Hand symbol in Rock Art around the world. Contributions of Hand symbols to the site are welcomed. NEW : Art Network FORUM ... - Wednesday, December 19, 2001 at 16:08:45 (EST) URL: http://64.246.0.3/index.cgi?pbuser=artnetwork Email: artnetwork@freebox.com Comments: International Art discussions & Info. ROCK ART discussions & Info WANTED... Cynthia - Friday, December 07, 2001 at 09:51:24 (EST) URL: http:// Email: cslorax@hotmail.com Comments: I recently aquired a reproduction petroglyph from Maui. The name of the piece is "Poi Dog". I am trying to find out what if any cultural or mythological meaning this particular figure has. Any information you could provide would be much appreciated. Thanks Christian Adamsen - Thursday, December 06, 2001 at 22:59:27 (EST) URL: http://www.skalk.dk Email: skalk@post.tele.dk Comments: Somehow almost every day, I receive messages from a arteyrupestre newsgroup. Could you or anyone help me to be deleted from there? yours faithfully Christian Adamsen editor Jack Tempest - Friday, November 30, 2001 at 13:43:05 (EST) URL: http:// Email: jack.tempest@btinternet.com Address: 10 Maple Close, Holmes Chapel, Cheshire, CW4 7QH, UK. Comments: I have just seen your report on the Swastika Stone near Ilkley, West Yorkshire. I know it well. Not far away, on the same moorland slopes art the Cow & Calf Rocks. Many years ago I went to a lecture in which someone presented a theory that these may have served as a kind of Sphynx. It is possible to see a face on the largest rock. Maybe a natural feature - maybe not. Perhaps it may be of interest to you. I live several miles away now but perhaps a colleague may help? If I can be of further assistance please let me know. Sincerely - Jack Tempest. Jack Tempest - Friday, November 30, 2001 at 13:43:04 (EST) URL: http:// Email: jack.tempest@btinternet.com Address: 10 Maple Close, Holmes Chapel, Cheshire, CW4 7QH, UK. Comments: I have just seen your report on the Swastika Stone near Ilkley, West Yorkshire. I know it well. Not far away, on the same moorland slopes art the Cow & Calf Rocks. Many years ago I went to a lecture in which someone presented a theory that these may have served as a kind of Sphynx. It is possible to see a face on the largest rock. Maybe a natural feature - maybe not. Perhaps it may be of interest to you. I live several miles away now but perhaps a colleague may help? If I can be of further assistance please let me know. Sincerely - Jack Tempest. Tommy Charles - Thursday, November 29, 2001 at 15:12:00 (EST) URL: http:// Email: charlest@sc.edu Address: South Carolina Institute of Archaeology Affiliation: University of South Carolina Comments: I am searching for information about the process of small scale pine tar extraction in Europe prior to the 20th century, particularly in Scotland, Ireland and England. This is farm level industry I am talking about, not commercial. I also need information about the process of producing lye water for soap making at the family level in Europe. (I need as much technical details as possible.) So, what's this got to do with rock art? Well it seems that some of the early European settlers in the Appalachian Mountain region of the eastern United States were into using rocks with a carving very similar to the "peace" sign in the process of tar and lye water manufacture. Present day researchers call these carvings "tar burner rocks" and consider them to be "Euro-American Petroglyphs". We know these carvings have been around for over two hundred years and I am trying to determine if this methodology of tar extraction was brought over by European immigrants, invented independently by those people after they settled the back country, or if it may have been a Native American carving that European settlers adapted to their process of tar extraction. Thanks in advance for any help you can give. Tommy Charles Archaeologist South Carolina Institute of Archaeology University of South Carolina Columbia, SC 29208 Gus van Veen & Jan Brouwer - Thursday, November 29, 2001 at 05:36:45 (EST) URL: http://communities.msn.com/rockartinthebritishlandscape Email: rockartuk@hetnet.nl Address: Apeldoorn/Castricum, The Netherlands Comments: Hi Rockers, We would like to ask your attention for our new community website on prehistoric abstract rock art in England and Scotland. It's about a modest corner of the rock-art world; 5000 years old abstract motifs on outcrop rock and boulders. In fact they are "signs of a lost message" since the meaning of the motifs is still unknown. You may find interesting articles and a lot of photos. Enjoy these enigmatic images of the late Stone- and early Bronze-Age. You might even consider to become a member of our international community; you're most welcome! Gordon Smith - Tuesday, November 27, 2001 at 19:05:05 (EST) URL: http:// Email: gordonsmith@cablelynx.com Address: 116 Phillips St., Hot Springs, AR 71913 Comments: Am interested in learning about rock art in Arkansas. To date I have found only one book, and it is limited, on the subject. Does anyone have other sources than Clay Sherrod's MOTIFS OF ANCIENT MAN? Thanks for your input. - Wednesday, November 21, 2001 at 12:05:47 (EST) Comments: - Thursday, November 08, 2001 at 22:35:17 (EST) Comments: - Wednesday, November 07, 2001 at 04:12:13 (EST) Comments: - Wednesday, November 07, 2001 at 03:24:16 (EST) URL: http://www.blackdogartifacts.com Email: imagesinstone@nyc.rr.com Comments: Images I found on rocks in the N.Y. area. I believe they are part of an archive left by an ancient civilization. Bradshaw Foundation - Tuesday, November 06, 2001 at 12:46:30 (EST) URL: http://www.bradshawfoundation.com/discussion Comments: A new Web Forum has been set up by the Bradshaw Foundation for discussion on Rock Art, Archaeology, Anthropology, Human Evolution, or any topic you wish to post. The forum is for anyone to contribute and postings to the new board would be much welcomed. It can be found at http://www.bradshawfoundation.com/discussi on Trevor Brierly - Friday, October 26, 2001 at 21:41:04 (EDT) Email: tbrierly@ari.net Comments: I have been fascinated with petroglyphs, with their energy and bold simplicity. I am interested in creating my own "rock art", art in the petroglyph style. I feel that to capture the right spirit, that it is important to make my own paints, in the same way that the original petroglyph artists did. Does anyone have any recipes, instructions, etc on how to go about making paints for "rock art"? Galata Flores Dragna - Friday, October 26, 2001 at 19:29:19 (EDT) URL: http://www.uraba.8m.com Email: culturagalata@hotmail.com Address: comarca ngobe bugle,panama Affiliation: Instituto Uraba,Ngobe Bugle Nation. Comments: One Comarca,One Inter-Am Congress of Sabios Indigenous, One Free Trade Zone Indigenous,One Cultura Millenarian,owned,managed and operated by Indigenous. Congress Almendro Baru,January. 2002 will be Indigenous leading way to world peace of 1000 years,say Petroglyphs and oral history of Ngobes Sabaneros and Kunas. Nov 12 will launch first phase of Indigenous Foro and Mundo Millenarian. Emer O'Donnell - Thursday, October 25, 2001 at 22:59:59 (EDT) URL: http:// Email: emer61@yahoo.com.au Address: Reynella, Aust. Affiliation: Flinders Uni. Comments: Hi, I'm looking for spatial dimensions and maps indicating artifact dispersal in the caves of Pech Merle, Les Trios Freres, Laussel and La Madeleine. I'm particularly interested in 3D schematics of these. Any recent references would be greatly appreciated. rosemary - Wednesday, October 24, 2001 at 18:14:49 (EDT) URL: http://www.dtzman.com Email: rgriffi1224@earthlink.net Comments: We are an art site featuring a collection of sketched petroglyphs from the Valley of fire in petroglyph National park, Nevada. Tomas Brusell - Friday, October 19, 2001 at 09:44:00 (EDT) URL: http://www.gotland-exhibitions.com/tomas-brusell Email: brusell@online.no Address: Storgata 6, 3611 Kongsberg Comments: My aim is to look for the traces of before-farers in art. I look and I find them, old and secure on the rocks all over the planet. In our part of the world we in fact all are physically living and working on this old art... Tomas Brusell catshaman - Monday, October 15, 2001 at 12:31:32 (EDT) URL: http://catshaman.tripod.com/ Email: hemtun@swipnet.se Address: Sweden Comments: My old URL http://catshaman.com is not working any more and NBCI have been down for weeks. My new Url above with 248 documents and my entire production cheers catshaman Lorena Terando - Saturday, October 13, 2001 at 14:46:42 (EDT) URL: http:// Email: lorenaterando@hotmail.com Affiliation: SUNY Binghamton/NYU/Independent Comments: Hello, I am interested in Sweden's Solhästen, the Sun Horse. Could anyone direct me to information on its meaning, history, etc.? I would appreciate any help! Thank you, Lorena NYC Walid Youssef - Saturday, October 13, 2001 at 12:50:54 (EDT) URL: http://www.christmasinegypt.com Email: info.Cairo@christmasinegypt.com Comments: Egypt travel package & nile cruise tour. Cairo & sharm el sheikh hotel vacation. Red Sea Scuba diving. Family vacation deal. Discount & Cheap adventure travel. online prices. Eric - Saturday, October 13, 2001 at 02:23:32 (EDT) URL: http:// Email: blacksabbath101 Address: non Affiliation: non Comments: Everyone make MTV play real music! Vote for Ozzy's "Gets me Through" on TRL. Dial 1-800-342-5688 in the appropriate times and also log onto www.mtv.com/onair/trl/votevideo.jhtml and cast your vote daily! Check here for more info www.streetteam.net/ozzy.html#trl And remember buy Ozzy's Album "Down to Earth" when it comes out on Oct. 16th! Thomas Benton - Wednesday, October 10, 2001 at 16:45:29 (EDT) URL: http:// Email: gthomasb420@yahoo.com Affiliation: student (under grad) Comments: I am a student, and I need any information about Swedish or Scandinavian Rock Art. I have to write twelve pages about a post card with a picture of a ship on it. Please help me! RARI - Wednesday, October 03, 2001 at 07:24:25 (EDT) URL: http://www.bradshawfoundation.com/rari Address: Witwatersrand University Rock Art Research Institute Affiliation: Rock Art Research Institute Comments: In January 2000 David Lewis-Williams retired from the directorship of the former Witwatersrand University Rock Art Research Institute. In the same month the Unit was raised to the highest research status conferred by the University, that of Institute. This status was awarded to recognise the high level of achievement in research publications and the breadth of research talent built up during Professor Lewis-William's twenty-one year directorship. The new Institute status represents a long-term commitment by the University of the Witwatersrand to fund rock art as a field of study beyond reliance on the research standing of any particular individual. With a permanent staff of seven, together with some fifteen part-time assistants, the new director, Benjamin Smith, heads up what has become perhaps the largest specialist rock art institution in the world. As well as its renowned research and publication record (for a full listing of publications see the Institute website http://www.wits.ac.za.rari the Institute has become a leading centre for rock art training. Specialist courses in rock art recording, interpretation and management are offered at both undergraduate and post-graduate levels. The Institute has also become active in rock art conservation and in the development of rock art tourism in South Africa. The RARI field team funded by AngloGold offer a unique rock art '911' service. The team is on-call 24 hours a day, ready to rush to rock art wherever it is threatened in southern Africa. The pictures on the following pages are drawn from the collections of the Rock Art Research Institute. RARI - Wednesday, October 03, 2001 at 07:24:07 (EDT) URL: http://www.bradshawfoundation.com/rari Address: Witwatersrand University Rock Art Research Institute Affiliation: Rock Art Research Institute Comments: In January 2000 David Lewis-Williams retired from the directorship of the former Witwatersrand University Rock Art Research Institute. In the same month the Unit was raised to the highest research status conferred by the University, that of Institute. This status was awarded to recognise the high level of achievement in research publications and the breadth of research talent built up during Professor Lewis-William's twenty-one year directorship. The new Institute status represents a long-term commitment by the University of the Witwatersrand to fund rock art as a field of study beyond reliance on the research standing of any particular individual. With a permanent staff of seven, together with some fifteen part-time assistants, the new director, Benjamin Smith, heads up what has become perhaps the largest specialist rock art institution in the world. As well as its renowned research and publication record (for a full listing of publications see the Institute website http://www.wits.ac.za.rari the Institute has become a leading centre for rock art training. Specialist courses in rock art recording, interpretation and management are offered at both undergraduate and post-graduate levels. The Institute has also become active in rock art conservation and in the development of rock art tourism in South Africa. The RARI field team funded by AngloGold offer a unique rock art '911' service. The team is on-call 24 hours a day, ready to rush to rock art wherever it is threatened in southern Africa. The pictures on the following pages are drawn from the collections of the Rock Art Research Institute. Bradshaw Foundation - Wednesday, October 03, 2001 at 07:02:35 (EDT) URL: http://www.bradshaw-foundation.com Address: Worldwide Affiliation: Rock Art Research Comments: Bradshaw Foundation's updated website includes new articles and research on Rock Art throughout the world. http://www.bradshaw-foundation.com Aydin Akduz - Tuesday, October 02, 2001 at 09:44:30 (EDT) URL: http://www.pisidian.com Email: info@pisidian.com Address: ISPARTA -TURKEY Affiliation: Turkey Comments: a site out of site pisidian antioch grafe.net - Sunday, September 30, 2001 at 13:05:05 (EDT) URL: http://artrupestre.ifrance.com Email: boyerp91@hotmail.com Address: paris Affiliation: aucune Comments: où pourrais je présenter mon site Rupestre/web Editor - Thursday, September 27, 2001 at 11:37:40 (EDT) URL: http://rupestreweb.tripod.com/index.html Email: rupestreweb@yahoo.com Affiliation: Rock art research Comments: PUBLISH ON RUPESTRE/WEB Dear Colleagues: Investigators of Rock Art in Latin America are cordially invited to publish on the RUPESTRE/WEB internet website: http://rupestreweb.tripod.com/index.html This is a space open to all investigators and organizations interested in the study of rock art in Latin America. It is a free service increasing every day. If you are interested in published, your contribution may be send to either of these email addresses rupestreweb@yahoo.com ciudadanomartinez@yahoo.com CONDITIONS 1. The text archive should be in email format or as an attachment in Word (.doc) format. It is important that any additional notes and biography accompany the article. If it is an article that has been previously published, please cite the original. Please also enclose a brief resume (abstract) to brief the readers. 2. The Photographs, graphics, maps, etc, archives should be in email format as an attachment in.jpg, .gif o .tif formats. Each other will be responsible for the copyright of his text and graphics. Those will not be used outside of the Rupestre/web (without by by the same authors) without permission of the author. Rupestre/web is an independent media organ, not represented by any particular interest or institution and is open to the entire rock art investigative community, with special emphasis in Latin America. The official website language is Spanish, but contributions in other languages may be submitted (Portuguese, English or French). Contributions are organized by country in the following sections: a) ARTICLES: Reports, projects, presentations, investigation previews, discoveries, theoretic-methodological studies, and discussions. b) ZONES: maps showing areas and zones with rock art. Images, drawings, photos and registers of rock art discoveries. c) NOTICES: brief references to current projects, academic- investigative activities, congresses, symposiums, expositions and reviews of publications. d) LINKS: Other internet rock art sites, contacts with organizations and investigators and discussion sites. Each ARTICLE is an independent page. It can encompass a broad spectrum of themes within the area of rock art: Announcement and presentation of sites, new discoveries, documentation, interpretation, iconography, conservation, etc. Rupestre/web and its editorial committee reserve the right of publication of materials received and will determine the pertenence to the website. Rupestre/web will update the site with new contributions. Parallel to this page, there is a discussion group where participants can share their views and commentaries (about the publications and other items) with other investigators of Latin American rock art. The website is: http://www.yahoogroups.com/group/rupestreweb and the email address is: rupestreweb@yahoogroups.com We thank you for your interest in participating in this project. We will be pleased to receive notices, bulletins, articles or any other material that you consider relevant for the dispersement of your investigation and announcement of new rock art sites in your study area. Sincerely, Diego Martínez Celis. Editor - Rupestre/web ciudadanomartinez@yahoo.com rupestreweb@yahoo.com Mailing address: Carrera 53 No. 70-70 Bogota D.C.Colombia. Tel Dr. Abdullah M. S. Al-Sharekh - Tuesday, September 25, 2001 at 05:29:25 (EDT) URL: http:// Email: asharekh@ksu.edu.sa Address: P.O. Box 84351, Riyadh 11612, Saudi Arabia Comments: I am interested to become a member of ICOMOS Rockart Committee. I would like to have detail information, what are the procedures, formalities and requirements to be a member for the same. Thanks Abdullah Al-Sharekh Allen Beck - Saturday, September 15, 2001 at 22:44:17 (EDT) URL: http:// Email: becklaw@ttc-cmc.net Address: HC 63 Box 5140, Dodson, MT 59524-9703 Affiliation: none - father of young student seeking information Comments: My son, age 7, visited his first, (and mine as well), pictograph cave near Landusky, Montana. He was enthralled, so much so that he picked pictographs in the local area as the subject for his entry in the local history fair. His only prior contact with the subject matter was a school visit to a local Bureau of Land Management office, where the general subject of cave art was discussed. I was pleasantly suprised at his retention of the information given there, and his readily given interpretations of what we saw at this site. I'm searching the web for information which may help him discover the origin of the local cave art as well as that in other areas of Montana. Thank you for your consideration. Alqueva petition online URL: http://www.PetitionOnline.com/Alqueva/petition.html Please feel free to add to your page a logo and a link to the Alqueva petition online like this  or like this
 simply copy and insert the code here below: <a href="http://www.PetitionOnline.com/Alqueva/petition.html"> <img src="http://rupestre.net/rockart/saveguadiana.jpg" width=120 height=65 border=0 alt="sign the online petition"></a> Alqueva petition online - Monday, September 10, 2001 at 12:00:00 (EDT) URL: http://www.PetitionOnline.com/Alqueva/petition.html Comments: Please join to save the Guadiana rock art against one of the hugest and unuseful dam building projects in Europe! see also TRACCE 13 http://rupestre.net/tracce/13 - Wednesday, September 05, 2001 at 15:55:53 (EDT) URL: http:// Email: grndlem@yahoo.com Comments: I am looking for a poster of the cave art of human hands at Cosquer and/or Lascaux Caves. Can anyone help me? louay hazime - Wednesday, September 05, 2001 at 13:49:50 (EDT) URL: http:// Email: hlouay@hotmail.com Affiliation: scientist Comments: hellow my name is louay. and i was wondering if any of u guys would be affiliated with ancient coins? the reason i ask this is because i have an ancient coin which appears to be over 2500 years old, from what a mid eastern professor in arcealogy told me, what i want is if you guys would be able to contact me to examin it please consider. sincerely. don hazime. gregoriy - Monday, September 10, 2001 at 09:21:45 (EDT) URL: http:// Address: greg_ts@hotmail.com Comments: Can you please send me a symetrycal painting thats really old! Thans! I will be waiting bye. - Wednesday, September 05, 2001 at 15:55:53 (EDT) URL: http:// Email: grndlem@yahoo.com Comments: I am looking for a poster of the cave art of human hands at Cosquer and/or Lascaux Caves. Can anyone help me? louay hazime - Wednesday, September 05, 2001 at 13:49:50 (EDT) URL: http:// Email: hlouay@hotmail.com Affiliation: scientist Comments: hellow my name is louay. and i was wondering if any of u guys would be affiliated with ancient coins? the reason i ask this is because i have an ancient coin which appears to be over 2500 years old, from what a mid eastern professor in arcealogy told me, what i want is if you guys would be able to contact me to examin it please consider. sincerely. don hazime. Dr. John Stoffolano - Friday, August 31, 2001 at 14:40:29 (EDT) URL: http://www.umass.edu/ent/stoff/stoffb4.html Email: stoff@ent.umass.edu Address: Department of Entomology, Univ. of Massachusetts, Amherst, Mass., U.S.A. 01003 Affiliation: Professor of Entomology Comments: Hello, I am writing a book on crickets and need information as to whether anyone knows of any sites where petroglyphs depict crickets or cricket-like motifs. Thank you kindly, Sincerely, Professor John Stoffolano alice buhrich - Monday, August 27, 2001 at 20:52:15 (EDT) URL: http:// Email: abuhrich@une.edu.au Address: PO box 67 Palm Cove Post Office, Cairns, QLD AUS Affiliation: University of New England, Ang- Gnarra Aboriginal Corporation Comments: I am studying visitor behaviour at rock art sites. I am looking for references on this topic from around the world (particularly India, Norway/Sweden, France and Australia). If any one can point me in the right direction it would be FANTASTIC. I am also interested in the social impact of tourism at rock art sites on indigenous communities (traditional owners and Aboriginal people living with the sites). Does anyone have any thoughts or references for this topic? Thank You. ali elzeen - Saturday, August 18, 2001 at 05:12:16 (EDT) URL: http://----- Email: alielzeen@hotmail.com Address: Elzhor/teeba 2-4/port said Affiliation: Canal of Suez University,Egypt Comments: I am looking for new information and new photo galleries of the rock art sites of the Jebel Uweinat and Gilf Kebir area of SW Egypt,rock art sitis of oasis of western desart ,and sites of rock art of Eastern Desart , .and websites that may talk about this subject. I am currently a Ph.D. student of Art Aducatian at Canal of Suez University and am interested in doing research on inspiration of the plastic expressive values of primitive art in caves paintings of south egypt to create contemporary egyptian painting . Any information will be greatly appreciated. you can contact me directly also on my email ( alielzeen@hotmail.com ) . Thank you . ali elzeen - Saturday, August 18, 2001 at 05:07:14 (EDT) URL: http://----- Email: alielzeen@hotmail.com Address: Elzhor/teeba 2-4/port said Affiliation: Canal of Suez University,Egypt Comments: I am looking for new information and new photo galleries of the rock art sites of the Jebel Uweinat and Gilf Kebir area of SW Egypt,rock art sitis of oasis of western desart ,and sites of rock art of Eastern Desart , .and websites that may talk about this subject. I am currently a Ph.D. student of Art Aducatian at Canal of Swise University and am interested in doing research on inspiration of the plastic expressive values of primitive art in caves paintings of south egypt to create contemporary egyptian painting . Any information will be greatly appreciated. you can contact me directly also on my email ( alielzeen@hotmail.com ) . Thank you . ALI ELZEEN - Sunday, August 12, 2001 at 04:17:28 (EDT) URL: http://--- Email: ALIELZEEN@HOTMAIL.COM Address: ELZHOR / PORT SAID / EGYPT Affiliation: CANAL SWISE UNIVERSITY Comments: I am looking for new information and with new photo galleries of the rock art sites of the Jebel Uweinat and Gilf Kebir area of SW Egyp.and websites that may talk about this subject. I am currently a Ph.D. student of art aducatian at canal swiise University and am interested in doing research on Inspiration of the plastic expressive values of primitive art in caves paintings of south egypt to create contemporary egyptian painting.Any information will be greatly appreciated. you can contact me directly also on my email. Thank you very . VALTERS GRIVINS - Friday, August 10, 2001 at 18:48:32 (EDT) URL: http:// Email: walters@latnet.lv Comments: Friends, I am looking for "hand" and "eye" images in rock art, especially in European examples. Please send me a message if You know an internet location of these pictures. Mario Giannitrapani - Thursday, August 02, 2001 at 12:27:52 (EDT) URL: http:// Email: mario_giannitrapani@yahoo.it Address: via dei monti Tiburtini 558 - 00157 Roma Affiliation: Sc. Arch. Spec.Preist. Roma Comments: Inmteressato a vs pubblicazioni ed attività ITrain Media - Tuesday, July 31, 2001 at 02:30:56 (EDT) URL: http://www.itrainmedia.com Email: randi@itrainmedia.com Address: Box 383, Salmon Arm, BC, V1E 4M1 Comments: Glad to find your site online. Wanted to let your readers know about a new multimedia interactive CDROM we have produced featuring pictograph sites on and around Shuswap Lake in British Columbia, Canada. Have a look on our website. Robin Edgar - Sunday, July 29, 2001 at 08:23:02 (EDT) URL: http://eyeofgod.homestead.com Email: robin_edgar@altavista.com Address: 15 Lafleur apt. 11 Verdun, Quebec - still in Canada! Affiliation: Humanity Comments: Many petroglyphs of the sun are in fact "compound sun/eye symbols" that were inspired by ancient observations of the "Eye of God" that is clearly manifested in the skies during most (if not all) total solar eclipses. The totally eclipsed sun does bear a striking similarity in appearance to the pupil and iris of a gigantic "cosmic eye" staring down from the heavens. The occulting disk of the moon clearly mimics the pupil of an human eye while the rays and streamers of the sun's corona shining out around this black "hole in the sky" closely resemble the muscle structure of the iris. There is abundant evidence that this "Eye of God" profoundly influenced ancient humanity's religious beliefs in all parts of the world. The sun petroglyphs on the "Stone of the Seven Suns" at Dowth, Ireland are virtually identical to a scientific astronomical drawing of the 1841 total solar eclipse that appears in the Memoirs of Britain's Royal Astronomical Society. My "Web Sight" titled "Eye of God" (at the URL given above) presents compelling evidence that this "Eye of God" that is manifested during total solar eclipses is the inspiration of these and many other "compound sun/eye symbol" petroglyphs. Evidence derived from some of these ancient rock art representations of total solar eclipses tends to suggest that at least some prehistoric humans understood that total solar eclipses were caused by our only moon covering our sun. I look forward to rock art experts' response to my research as expounded in "Eye of God". Sincerely, Robin Edgar Robin Edgar - Sunday, July 29, 2001 at 08:21:34 (EDT) URL: http://eyeofgod.homestead.com Email: robin_edgar@altavista.com Address: 15 Lafleur apt. 11 Verdun, Quebec - still in Canada! Affiliation: Humanity Comments: Many petroglyphs of the sun are in fact "compound sun/eye symbols" that were inspired by ancient observations of the "Eye of God" that is clearly manifested in the skies during most (if not all) total solar eclipses. The totally eclipsed sun does bear a striking similarity in appearance to the pupil and iris of a gigantic "cosmic eye" staring down from the heavens. The occulting disk of the moon clearly mimics the pupil of an human eye while the rays and streamers of the sun's corona shining out around this black "hole in the sky" closely resemble the muscle structure of the iris. There is abundant evidence that this "Eye of God" profoundly influenced ancient humanity's religious beliefs in all parts of the world. The sun petroglyphs on the "Stone of the Seven Suns" at Dowth, Ireland are virtually identical to a scientific astronomical drawing of the 1841 total solar eclipse that appears in the Memoirs of Britain's Royal Astronomical Society. My "Web Sight" titled "Eye of God" (at the URL given above) presents compelling evidence that this "Eye of God" that is manifested during total solar eclipses is the inspiration of these and many other "compound sun/eye symbol" petroglyphs. Evidence derived from some of these ancient rock art representations of total solar eclipses tends to suggest that at least some prehistoric humans understood that total solar eclipses were caused by our only moon covering our sun. I look forward to rock art experts' response to my research as expounded in "Eye of God". Sincerely, Robin Edgar Guadiana Rock Art Presevation Group - Sunday, July 22, 2001 at 10:20:35 (EDT) URL: http://www.PetitionOnline.com/Alqueva/petition.html Comments: !!SOS Guadiana Rock Art!! http://www.PetitionOnline.com/Alqueva/petition .html Please Sign this petition (at the link above) to help save over a thousand important and beautiful prehistoric petroglyphs. The rock art sites are along the Guadiana River in both Portugal and Spain. They are in the impact zone of the new but not quite completed Alqueva Dam reservoir. The glyphs, which may be at least 5,000 years old and possibly more than 10,000 years old, are prehistorically significant and unique to this area of Iberia and the world. They are both a scientific and cultural treasure. Despite the recent discovery of the rock art -- headstrong and uncaring developers and politicans refuse to stop the project and, instead, plan to fill the reservoir at the end of 2001. If the project isn't abandoned, the rock art sites will disappear under murky and polluted waters. In addition to destruction of the glyphs, the reservoir will result in major ecological damage by submerging one of the last wildernesses in Europe. Existence of the rock art became publc in late April, when independent environmental researchers accidently discovered a few of the numerous sites. The well-paid contract archaeologists -- who did the official (and possibly incompetent) surveys for the developer (EIDA) and the Portuguese government -- failed to find and report the clearly visible rock art. Because of this "oversight", the dam was approved. If existence of the rock art sites had been disclosed in a timely manner, during initial consideration of the Alqueva Dam, authorities probably would not have given the go-ahead for the project. Adding to questionable nature of this unfolding developmental tragedy are the findings of recent independent studies. Apparently, the dam is unlikely to produce any of the benefits that promoters and politicians claim. This means that the destruction of the rock art sites and the local environment is quite unnecessary and meritless. Help stop this project now. Sign the petition as soon as possible. It will only take a minute -- http://www.PetitionOnline.com/Alqueva/petition .html - Friday, July 20, 2001 at 19:33:16 (EDT) Comments: Joel Briggs - Friday, July 20, 2001 at 15:31:22 (EDT) URL: http://www.desertdrifter.com/articles/petroglyph/index.html Email: joel@desertdrifter.com Address: P.O. Box 1832, Rancho Cucamonga, CA. 91729 Affiliation: desertdrifter.com Comments: This is a site I developed to learn more about the Coso Petroglyphs. Here you will learn of how they came to be, who made them, and other useful information. There is a page about the muesum tour to view them. Joel Briggs - Friday, July 20, 2001 at 15:30:16 (EDT) URL: http://www.desertdrifter.com/articles/petroglyph/index.html Email: joel@desertdrifter.com Address: P.O. Box 1832, Rancho Cucamonga, CA. 91729 Affiliation: desertdrifter.com Comments: This is a site I developed to learn more about the Coso Petroglyphs. Here you will learn of how they came to be, who made them, and other useful information. There is a page about the muesum tour to view them. Leo DUBAL - Thursday, July 19, 2001 at 15:08:07 (EDT) URL: http://www.archaeometry.org Email: vla@worldonline.fr Address: F-48500 Soulages Comments: on-going review of rock art messages in light of calibrated dating of ancient artefacts and climatic changes and the inventions of patriarchy and of alphabets and science Rainer Hostnig - Tuesday, July 17, 2001 at 01:52:40 (EDT) URL: http:// Email: rrhostnig@terra.com.pe Address: Cusco Affiliation: SIARB Comments: Estoy trabajando en un nuevo inventario de arte rupestre peruano, por departamentos. Vivo en Cusco y realizo prospecciones de sitios en Cusco, Puno, Madre de Dios y Apurímac. ¿Alguién interesado en el intercambio de información? Contáctame! Rainer Dymocks Booksellers, Darwin, Australia - Wednesday, July 11, 2001 at 03:23:34 (EDT) URL: http:// Email: dymocks2@austarnet.com.au Comments: I have a client interested in purchasing a copy of Harold Pager's Rock paintings of the Upper Brandenburg (parts 1 & 2) Can anyone help with who I need to contact ? Many Thanks glenn - Sunday, June 17, 2001 at 05:20:28 (EDT) URL: http://artshack.tripod.com/rockart.html Email: heaps@ix.net.au Address: hill end nsw Comments: get funky y'all , mod views of old news William - Tuesday, June 12, 2001 at 02:31:59 (EDT) URL: http://beer.com Comments: Vote for my favorite song ‘Stardust’ by BigFear and you could get to meet superstar Pam babe and spend an evening with her. Here is the link http://www.beer.com/jamwithpam/us/6pack/6pack.cgi info - Friday, June 01, 2001 at 14:05:22 (EDT) URL: http://www.tumhand.com Email: info@tumhand.com Affiliation: Advise a www.tumhand.com website Comments: Advise a www.tumhand.com website Justina De Cima - Monday, May 28, 2001 at 13:43:50 (EDT) URL: http://www.isabelmatiella.com Email: justinadecima@hotmail.com Address: Mariano Escobedo 318 Altos L-2 Centro Mazatlan, Sin. Mexico 82000 Comments: Research on Mexico´s Petroglyphs, Jewelry inspired by petroglyphs Exhibitions, Detail Information on Las Labradas. lili papoli - Sunday, May 20, 2001 at 07:03:31 (EDT) URL: http:// Email: papoli.hum.tmu@net1cs.modares.ac.ir Address: iran-tehran-tarbiyat modares university-humanities faculty-archaeology department Comments: Dear Friends, I send you this letter from tmu in tehran.I want to know how we can use your informations for our students & how we can send you the results of our excavations and surveys in Iran which we do in prehistory period. lili papoli secretory of the department of archaeology tarbiyat modares university Iran-Tehran 
Guadiana rock Art Forum - Friday, May 11, 2001 at 08:45:57 (EDT)
URL: http://rupestre.net/tracce/13 Email: orme@rupestre.net Comments: Please leave a message to the Guadiana Rock Art Forum. 
Mila Simoes de Abreu - Andrea Arcà - Angelo Foassati - Friday, May 11, 2001 at 08:45:57 (EDT)
URL: http://rupestre.net/tracce/13 Email: orme@rupestre.net Comments: Portugal, damned dams again Please reach TRACCE 13 http://rupestre.net/tracce/13/alquevaconcerns.html. 
Andrea Arcà - Friday, May 11, 2001 at 08:43:37 (EDT)
URL: http://rupestre.net/tracce/13 Email: orme@rupestre.net Comments: Guadiana rock art is heavily menaced by the Alqueva dam! Please reach TRACCE 13 http://rupestre.net/tracce/13 special issue. yancey gill - Thursday, May 10, 2001 at 00:30:28 (EDT) URL: http://.www.msn.com Email: naturesinsay@yahoo.com Address: rt2 box 127 lamar ar 72846 Affiliation: none Comments: yes im in homeschool and im duing a report on my futur carrer and give info on it and whatever and im planning on be an archiologist so if any of you could give me some info...maybie i will pass yancey Eve Breitung - Sunday, May 06, 2001 at 17:43:00 (EDT) URL: http:// Email: tlippold@onemain.com Comments: am interested in most recent information on the White Lady of Brand Berg (So. African Roct Art)...could someone recommend a book or publication? Thank you. Eve MARIELA GALDOS - Sunday, April 29, 2001 at 14:13:47 (EDT) URL: http:// Email: mariela.galdos@philips.com Address: Lima - Peru Affiliation: none Comments: I've been searching for some photos of Toquepala (South of Peru)rupestrian paintings. If anyone can help, I would really appreciate it. Mariela Corinna - Wednesday, April 25, 2001 at 21:23:01 (EDT) URL: http:// Email: chiebert@oberon.ark.com Comments: Could anyone please help me find some petroglyph/cave art, preferrably Australian. I'd like black and white renditions to use in designing some T-shirts. Do they ba any chance have a CD of these kinds of pics? Any help would be greatly appreciated. Corinna Jeter Pamie - Tuesday, April 24, 2001 at 18:21:23 (EDT) URL: http:// Email: pwhiteheadau Comments: Poseidon - Tuesday, April 24, 2001 at 14:23:08 (EDT) Affiliation: Macedonian (ie from N. Greece) Comments: Hello, I recommend you to read this sites and sign the guestbook:
rock art of pittwater - Tuesday, April 24, 2001 at 01:58:37 (EDT) URL: http://artshack.tripod.com/rockart.html Email: heaps@ix.net.au Address: hill end po nsw australia Comments: Images of Australian rock art Jeff Torquemada - Monday, April 23, 2001 at 16:26:55 (EDT) URL: http:// Email: jtorque@srvusd.k12.ca.us Address: 140 Love Lane, Danville, CA 94526 Affiliation: San Ramon Valley Unified School District Comments: My wife and I were hiking on the island of Maui and went out to see the petroglyphs at Olowalu. It is an absolute shame that many have been vandalized in recent years. They were facinating to see and the more one was willing to poke around and explore the more you could find. We wondered if there was any information available about them? NICOLE PATRAKIS - Monday, April 16, 2001 at 16:20:57 (EDT) URL: http:// Address: 680 NORTH STATE STREET Comments: RUSTY TELL YOUR FATHER THAT I NEED TO HEAR FROM HIM NICOLE PATRAKIS - Monday, April 16, 2001 at 16:20:13 (EDT) URL: http:// Address: 680 NORTH STATE STREET Comments: RUSTY GALETKA - Monday, April 16, 2001 at 16:15:46 (EDT) URL: http:// Comments: Rainer Hostnig - Monday, April 16, 2001 at 01:27:36 (EDT) URL: http:// Email: raihos@latinmail.com Address: Cusco-Peru Affiliation: SIARB Comments: I'm working on an inventory of peruvian rock art and seek for further information, drawings or/and photographs. Since I live in Cusco, I can contribute with new information about rock art sites of the departments Apurímac, Cusco, Puno and Madre de Dios. I have more difficulties to visit sites in central and northern Peru. May be you can help me out. greg redden - Sunday, April 15, 2001 at 06:43:09 (EDT) URL: http:// Email: payhaway Comments: have located lost culture this site has paleo hebrew aswell asricch assorted fossilremains asowners are also activvvve inn solvvinnnng this mystery we seek any information on other sites as this is an extraordinary find also this is on ancient mayan trail with known sweet medicine signs any and all info appreciated thanks GIPRI COLOMBIA - Sunday, April 15, 2001 at 01:38:30 (EDT) URL: http:// Email: gipri@col1.telecom.com.co Address: carrera 54a no 174-12 Bogota colombia Affiliation: IFRAO MEMBER Comments: El Comité acdemico de la revista y los equipos de investigadores están muy complacidos en poder informarque el numero 3 de la revista Rupestre: arte rupestre en Colombia, se encuentra en distribución y venta a los diferentes colegas del mundo. Se anuncia que diversas publicaciones se encuentran en preparación y seran anunciadas proximamente. Los colegas interesados en enviar articulos para la revista no 5 podran hacerlo dirigiendo correo a gipri@col1.telecom.com.co y a arteyrupestre@yahoogroups.com Los resumenes de esta revista se encuentran en castellano e ingles en el documento anexo ( Resumenes y Abstracs 44.2 KB) ARTE RUPESTRE EN COLOMBIA N Ú M E R O 3, J U L I O D E 2 0 0 0 INVESTIGACIONES COVADONGA: PRIMERA EXPEDICIÓN COLOMBO-FRANCESA Guillermo Muñoz Las investigaciones que se efectúan en torno a los grupos indígenas colombianos tienen la dificultad de no poder hallar descripciones o materiales que permitan abordar los problemas de estudio con suficientes herramientas teóricas que respondan a los múltiples interrogantes que se plantean. Sin embargo, existen intentos serios de explicar coherentemente el mundo espiritual y material de los habitantes prehispánicos, como los trabajos de Reichel Dolmatoff para la Sierra Nevada de Santa Marta y Ann Osborn en el área norte de la Cordillera Oriental, entre otros. Éstas investigaciones abordan los aspectos más sobresalientes de la cotidianidad indígena, pero generalmente no hacen énfasis en torno a la presencia de arte rupestre en el territorio. El grupo Colombo-Francés de investigación rupestre (GIPRI y algunos miembros del Centro Nacional de Investigaciones Científicas de Francia CNRS) realizó una expedición en 1998 con el fin de iniciar el proceso de documentación arqueológica y etnográfica en torno al pueblo Arhuaco en la Sierra Nevada de Santa Marta. En esta expedición se documentó una roca en la vereda Covadonga, cerca de Nabusimaque. La identificación de similitudes de los motivos de la roca con los de otras zonas del país y de Suramérica son los resultados más importantes hasta el momento. Covadonga: First Colombian-French Expedition. Recent investigations concerning Colombian Indigenous groups are made difficult because it has not been possible to find descriptions or materials that permit one to broach study problems with sufficient theoretic tools to respond to some of the many questions posed by these investigations. Nevertheless, there do exist serious attempts on the part of some contemporary authors to coherently explain the spirit world and material concerning the cosmology of the pre-hispanic inhabitants. Some of these studies were done by Reichel Dolmatoff for the Sierra Nevada de Santa Marta, and Ann Osborne in the area north of the Cordillera Oriental. These investigations broach the most obvious aspects of indigenous daily life but generally don’t emphasize the presence of rock art in their territory. The Colombo-French Group for Rock Art Investigation consisting of GIPRI and some members of the National Center for French Scientific Investigations CNRS made an expedition at the beginning of 1998 with the object of initiating a process of archeological and ethnological documentation of the Arhuaco community in the Sierra Nevada de Santa Marta. This expe-dition was one of the first attempts to systematically document a rock art site in the Covadonga area near Nabusimaque finishing with important results. Realizing that the Chibcha macro-linguistic family extended over a great part of Central America, and that the surviving tribes of the Sierra are their direct descendants, the most important findings of the Covadonga study have been the discovery of the similarities of the Covadonga rock art forms to other zones in Colombia and other parts of South America. LAS CUEVAS PALEOLÍTICAS DE FRANCIA Jean Clottes El descubrimiento en 1994 de la cueva de Chauvet en la región de Ariège, Francia, es sin duda un reto para quienes han creído que es indispensable tener prudencia en los análisis y en las interpretaciones sobre el arte y el sentido y función del arte rupestre. Su hallazgo constituye una nueva oportunidad para revisar el estado actual de la investigación del arte rupestre Paleolítico. Frente a la visión tradicional lo cierto es que la cueva de Chauvet abre nuevas opciones y descompensa las interpretaciones de Breuil y de Leroi-Gourhan Diversos grupos de trabajo llevan en distintas etapas de aproximación los estudios tanto de los murales como del piso de la cueva. En los próximos años será sorprendido el mundo académico con los hallazgos de las investigaciones coordinadas por Michel Garcia. The Paleolithic caves of France. The 1994 discovery of the Chauvet cave in the Ariege region, France, is without a doubt a goal for those who believed it is indispensable to take care in the analysis and with the interpretations of the art, meaning, and function of the rock art. It’s discovery constitutes a new opportunity for the examination of the state of the art investigation of Paleolithic rock art. Confronting traditional thinking, it is certain that the Chauvet cave opens new options and disintegrates the interpretations of Breuil and Leroi-Gourhan. Diverse research groups are working at different stages of study on the murals and the floor of the cave. The academic world will be surprised in the next few years when the findings coordinated by Michel Garcia are published. MITO, RITO Y PETROGLIFO A propósito del arte rupestre en el río Caquetá, Amazonia colombiana. Fernando Urbina Rangel Este artículo hace referencia a la investigación realizada por el autor desde 1978 en el curso medio del río Caquetá (Amazonia colombiana). Reseña históricamente los estudios realizados por diversos autores, haciendo especial enfásis en el trabajo de E. Reichel pues lo considera el más sistemático y riguroso de los realizados en la zona. A partir de sus explo-raciones, descubre cientos de nuevos yacimientos nunca antes referenciados. La zona en que se encuentran los grabados ha sido asiento desde tiempos muy remotos (9.300 a.P.) de culturas indígenas. Entre los grupos sobrevivientes existe una riquísima tradición ritual y mítica, soporte y guía de sus respectivas comunidades. Por último, el autor explora la hipótesis de la persistencia en la tradición oral actual de algunos mitos (la serpiente ancestral) que bien podrían orientar posibles sentidos de las representaciones rupestres. Myth, rite and petroglyph. Purpose of rock art in the Caqueta River, colombian Amazon. This article describes investigations by the author since 1978 in the middle trajectory of the Caqueta River (colombian Amazon). It summarizes historically the studies realized by different authors, emphasizing specifically the work of E. Reichel considered to be the most methodic and serious investigator of everyone who has studied this area. Hundreds of new sites never before described have been found based on his explorations. The petroglyph zone has been a native culture habitation site since very ancient times (9,300 BP). Amongst the surviving native cultures there exists a rich ritual and mythic tradition, that is the backbone and guide for the respective indigenous communities. Finally, the author explores the hypothesis of the persistence of some myths (the ancestral serpent) in current day oral tradition that well could orient possible interpretations of rock art graphics. PROCESOS METODOLÓGICOS SISTEMA DE REGISTRO Y DOCUMENTACION DE FACTORES DE ALTERACIÓN Y DETERIOROS Juanita Arango Osorio El estudio de las manifestaciones rupestres requiere de un complejo y completo grupo de profesionales, los cuales desde distintas disciplinas, se han de encargar de las labores de búsqueda, documentación, registro y conservación de los yacimientos. Este último aspecto es uno de los campos con menos estudio en el país. Sin el juicioso conocimiento de las causas del deterioro y destrucción de los yacimientos rupestres, no es posible llevar a cabo un adecuado proceso de limpieza y conservación. Los líquenes, hongos, algas, la precipitación etc., lentamente van destruyendo las manifestaciones estéticas, si este proceso de deterioro y destrucción no se detiene se perderá definitivamente este valioso tesoro cultural. Este trabajo, se convierte en pieza fundamental para el inicio de la conservación de arte rupestre en el país. Ya que aporta herramientas para el registro de los elementos que alteran y destruyen estas manifestaciones. Recording and documentation of alteration causes and deteriorations. The study of rock art forms needs a complex and varied group of investigators from different disciplines, who have been entrusted to search, document, record and preserve records of the findings. This last aspect (the conservation), it is one of the fields least studied in the country. The importance of this work is that because of lack of knowledge of causes of deterioration and destruction of rock art sites, it is impossible to have an adequate cleaning and conservation process. The lichens, fungi, weeds, precipitation, solar radiation, etc., have destroyed the rock art. If this deterioration and destruction process is not stopped, we have lost this valuable cultural treasure. This work is a simple way to begin this kind of in-country study because it uses tools (recording forms) to record the elements which alter and disturb the rock art. DOCUMENTOS JEROGLIFICOS PRECOLOMBINOS José M. Uribe Th. Ignacio Borda A. Después de los trabajos realizados por Miguel Triana, el estudio del arte rupestre colombiano se ve aplazado por dos décadas. Para finales de los treinta, aparece un resumen de la investigación de Uribe, Borda y Müller, relativo a las manifestaciones rupestres presentes en el territorio colombiano y en particular a aquellas presentes en el altiplano Cundiboyacense. La preocupación fundamental de esta investigación es entender la génesis y “desarrollo” de la escritura. Para ellos las pictografías y petroglifos son la representación formal del proceso hacia una simbología fonética, por lo tanto, solo si se entiende el arte rupestre como una estructura dentro del leguaje, se puede acceder a su sentido y contenido. Uno de los elementos más importantes de este trabajo es la denuncia y registro de numerosas zonas y rocas con arte rupestre, esto es importante si se tiene en cuenta que la mayoría de investigadores sobre el tema en el altiplano se han dedicado a copiar y reproducir la información de Triana y Botero (ver revista Rupestre No. 1), generando de esta manera, equívocos y la prolongación de algunos errores en la descripción de los sitios y de las pictografías. Pre-Columbian Hieroglyphs. The study of Colombian rock art was neglected for 20 years after Miguel Triana completed his studies. At the end of the 1930’s there appeared a summary of the investigation by Uribe, Borda and Muller, concerning rock art in Colombia, specifically art in the highland plains area of the states of Cundinamarca and Boyaca. The emphasis of this study was the origin and “development” of writing. These investigators believed the pictographs and petroglyphs represented a process leading up to phonetic symbols, and therefor, only if you understand rock art as a structural part of a language, can you delve into its meaning and content. One of the most important elements of this study is the divulging and documenting of the numerous zones and rocks containing rock art. This is important if you keep in mind that the majority of the previous investigators in this field in the highlands had dedicated their time mostly to copy and reproduce the work of Triana and Botero (see: Rupestre bulletin No. 1), continuing in this manner to promulgate past errors and descriptions of the rock art and the sites. NOTICIAS Y DESCUBRIMIENTOS Moyas y Piedras Pintadas Tras del Alto, Tunja Boyacá Zona del Tequendama. Transición entre pictografías y petroglifos. Avances de la investigación Sitios con arte rupestre en el Valle de Subachoque Rocas y petroglifos del Guainía Material rupestre en el municipio de El Colegio Cupules and painting rocks. Tras del Alto, Tunja Boyacá Tequendama zone. Transition between pictographs and petroglyphs. Advance in the investigation Places with rock art in the Valley of Subachoque Guainia´s rocks and petrogplyphs Rock art material in the El Colegio town EVENTOS Y PUBLICACIONES Reseña de los principales eventos que se realizan en el mundo alrededor de la temática rupestre y algunas de las principales publicaciones de circulación nacional e internacional Review of the principal events around the world and, international and national publications about rock art Información para ordenar Order information Pago y envío: Colombia: $10.000 BANCAFE No. 204001580 Guillermo Muñoz C. Enviar recibo de consignación: GIPRI: Cra 54ª. No. 174-12, Bogotá Shipping and handling: Other countries: us$10 WASHINGTON MUTUAL BANK, FA Wellington-Greenview Shores Financial Center 1778 1480 Greenview Shores Rd Wellington, FL 33414 Count: 3874453174 Judith Trujillo Or send the money order to: 4110 Sea Mist Way, Wellington, FL 33467 Rick Lind - Friday, April 13, 2001 at 02:45:44 (EDT) URL: http:// Email: beanflushkid@aol.com Address: Austin Texas Affiliation: ATWAU,SATT(All things weird and unbelievable, slightly all the time) Comments: Hey hey hey. I have dug up hundreds of what appear to be miniature petraglyphic images etched, some painted, on a variety of stones ranging from approx.10-12cm. down to .5-1.0cm across in size. Some are "newspaper rock" ish, others with a lesser number of images down to single images. Hmmmm. What the hell are these things REALLY? This must be some kind of trick. Please advise before my ENTIRE back yard has been dug up if possible. Thanks!! Ted Battistom - Wednesday, April 11, 2001 at 18:34:44 (EDT) URL: http:// Email: tbattiston@visto.com Address: 404 2101 Castle Drive, Whistler Affiliation: None Comments: First Timer, Trying to find information on the means of creation of the rock/sand formation known as the "Sahara Rose". A friend's baby was recently named after it and no-one is aware of how these roses are formed. Any help or advise would be appreciated. tedbattiston@hotmail.com sfiic - Monday, April 09, 2001 at 09:22:02 (EDT) URL: http://www.fnet.fr/sfiic Email: sfiic@lrmh.fr Address: 29 rue de Paris F 77420 Champs sur Marne Affiliation: association Comments: could you put a a link to our site, for we are organizong for May 2002 an international congress about conservation of prehistoric art, in Paris and Perigord. Please have a look on the site (home then clic on the banner) I'll of course put a reciprocal link from our site to yours.. Thanks Marcel Stefanaggi (webamster) art shack - Thursday, April 05, 2001 at 20:46:49 (EDT) URL: http://artshack.tripod.com/caveart.html Email: heaps@ix.net.au Address: australia Comments: check here for modern interpretation of ancient rock art glenn - Saturday, March 31, 2001 at 02:45:46 (EST) URL: http://artshack.tripod.com/caveart.html Email: heaps@ix.net.au Address: heaps cottage hill end nsw 2850 australia Comments: visual interpretations of new world rock art F.ond - Thursday, March 29, 2001 at 09:20:24 (EST) URL: http:// Email: fcbond@mother.com Comments: Has anybody seen a reference to the Condor and the American Indian or a glyph that might represent a Condor? j. doe - Saturday, March 24, 2001 at 14:25:28 (EST) URL: http:// Comments: archaeology find: on the west side of the san jaqauin valley in california two water wells were drilled hundreds of feet deep at a place aproximately 10 miles east of highway I-5. A piece of Redwood tree came out of the drill hole during drilling. This wood was put aside and fossilized/petrified in a few days or less after it came out of the hole. There are no naturally occuring Redwood trees in the valley floor. Does this wood indicate there was an unidentified naturally occuring chemical mixture produced during the tumolteous period when the Dinosaurs and plants got buried that produced a modifing effect on formerely surface located material???? If an unknown process did occur during the tumolteous period this could account for gross inaccuracies of Carbon Dating, right? How could the Redwood piece from the well have remained intact for millions of years? Obviously it got buried more recently than that and probably with the Dinosaurs, too. This story was told to me by my Grandfather who saw the fossilizing Redwood tree piece. Ive never known this story to be a joke. Paul-Louis van BERG - Saturday, March 17, 2001 at 05:05:42 (EST) URL: http://membres.tripod.fr/PLvanBerg/khisham.html Email: plvanberg@brutele.com Affiliation: Université Libre de Bruxelles Comments: About a new rock art site near the village of Khishâm (Hassake), in northeastern Syria. The first results suggest that this complex of several hundred carved rocks and archaological structures may be dated between 4500 and 1000 BC. A paper is presented on line, as well as tracings and photographs. Angel - Friday, March 16, 2001 at 15:32:05 (EST) URL: http:// Comments: - Friday, March 16, 2001 at 15:27:50 (EST) URL: http:// Email: www.Angel-Hc@hotmail.com Comments: Very interesting and I enjoyed the sight Angel Wang - Friday, March 16, 2001 at 15:22:27 (EST) URL: http://geoccities.com Email: www.angel Comments: Chris Troy - Monday, March 12, 2001 at 23:19:22 (EST) URL: http://www.therock.com Email: treeluke@wizzards.net Comments: The ROCK is the best I can count on him. I see him win every time I see him. When I here that music I know he will KICK ASS. When he loses I get PO. THE ROCK THE ROCK THE ROCK Inese Jansons - Wednesday, March 07, 2001 at 10:55:59 (EST) URL: http://www.divaplanet.net Email: mediaDivas@yahoo.com Address: Kalamazoo Michigan Affiliation: none Comments: Hello, I'm researching ancient petroglyphs and other sites that contain any solar symbolism for an art project that involves a comparative study to the Latvian Sun Dainas. Please visit my URL for info, and please email me with comments or suggestions. Any input is greatly appreciated. Ryan Fisher - Sunday, March 04, 2001 at 15:10:16 (EST) URL: http:// Email: fishAandM@hotmail.com Address: 1103 Dexter Affiliation: Texas A&M and Dr. Carolyn Boyd Comments: I am researching the relationship btween the rock art in the middle east and the cultures of peoples of the bible, and am looking for any correlations between the two. If anyone knows of anything that they think I should look at please email it to me. Dr. Rodolfo Ortiz M. - Friday, March 02, 2001 at 23:01:32 (EST) URL: http://www.geocities.com/Yosemite/Falls/9642/Petroglyphs.html Email: rodolfo.ortiz@usa.net Address: Saltillo, Coahuila Mexico Comments: - Arte Rupestre / Petroglifos - Mexico - Rock Art / Petroglyphs - Mexico ! Macedonian Rock Art Assocoation - Monday, February 26, 2001 at 16:35:59 (EST) URL: http://www.unet.com.mk/rockart/ Email: rockart@unet.com.mk Address: 91320 Kratovo Affiliation: International rock Art Congress in Macedonia 14-21 July 2002 Comments: Respected friends and Colleagues, About International Rock Art Congress in Macedonia in 2002, please visit our Web site: www.unet.com.mk/rockart/ Please inform us of any Foundation which help International Rock Art Research project. Thank you very much prof. Dr. Georgi Goshev Kerry - Tuesday, February 13, 2001 at 09:34:47 (EST) URL: http:// Email: freaky_friday20@hotmail.com Comments: hi, i am doing a documentary on the effects of rock music and if you guys have any stories please mail me. thanks, kerry Jerzy Dyczkowski - Monday, February 12, 2001 at 09:16:36 (EST) URL: http:// Email: jerzyd@ibb.waw.pl Address: Warszawa, Poland Affiliation: Institiute of Biochemistry and Biophysics Comments: INTERPRETATION OF "DEAD MAN" OF LASCAUX Hai, I'm orntihologist and casually learnt, that interpretation of "dead man" scene from Lascaux cave is a mystery. Is it still true? To my eyes, "bird on a stick" perfectly shows hunting decoy. Such decoys were still used in modern times for hunting Black Grouse in Eastern Europe. Stuffed bird (or bird dummy) is mounted on a stick, resembling a real branch as much as possible. If "dead man" shows one coherent scene, the barbed line nearby are another perch (with cross pole mounted on the top to lure the coming birds to rest). The man is wearing stuffed bird head as a camouflage (such masks were used recently by game hunters from Africa and Pakistan). The scene may be named "LUCKLESS BIRD TRAPPER". I'm not cave art researcher, I just thought this may be of interest and found Your forum. If it is wrong forum, I'm talking nonsense, or there is better explanation, or this interpretation is well known, then please, enlighten me on priva. Jerzy jerzyd@ibb.waw.pl Nuttakorn Rattanachaisit - Monday, February 12, 2001 at 05:30:56 (EST) URL: http://www.beadthawasuphadesign.com Email: info@beadthawasuphadesign.com Address: Thailand Affiliation: Bead in Thailand Comments: Please come to see the bead website. Dave - Monday, February 05, 2001 at 18:13:34 (EST) URL: http://www.discovergirls.com Email: neatslob@yahoo.com Address: Washington DC Affiliation: Pyro Communications LLC Comments: Awesome site! Keep up the good work. IFRAO 2002 won't be in FYROM (Former Yugoslavian Republic of Macedonia)! Please notice 
The official position of Ifrao is that there won't be a IFRAO Congress in FYROM (Former Yugoslavian Republic of Macedonia) in 2002Macedonian Rock Art Research Association - Wednesday, January 31, 2001 at 13:13:27 (EST) URL: http://www.unet.com.mk/rockart/ Email: rockart@unet.com.mk Address: Karpesta umetnost-Kratovo-Republic of Macedonia Affiliation: IFRAO Congress 2002 Comments: Dear fiends and colleagues, We are very pleased to inform you that you can consult our Web page: www.unet.com.mk We expect your questions about IFRAO 2002 Macedonian Rock Art Research Association - Wednesday, January 31, 2001 at 13:12:43 (EST) URL: http://www.unet.com.mk/rockart/ Email: rockart@unet.com.mk Address: Karpesta umetnost-Kratovo-Republic of Macedonia Affiliation: IFRAO Congress 2002 Comments: Dear fiends and colleagues, We are very pleased to inform you that you can consult our Web page: www.unet.com.mk We expect your questions about IFRAO 2002 Al Faour - Tuesday, January 23, 2001 at 10:21:45 (EST) URL: http:// Email: prhaupt@dial.pipex.com Affiliation: Freelance, also Univs of Southampton and Manchester, UK Comments: Anybody out there who is/was subscribed to this list in the last couple of years interested in the rock paintings found in the Algerian and Libyan Tassili's, the Algerian/Libyan Tadrart-Akakus sites and the Gilf Kebir/Al Uwaynat sites in Egypt? I'm doing a doctorate on "Altered States in Saharan Rock Art" ('Shamanism' to one or two of you!)and am hoping to find like-minded travelling companions who are interested in joining me in the Libyan Sahara from September 2001 onwards? I anticipate being in the Sahara for at least 6-8 weeks, but this may well be extended over christmas and the New Year (2002) depending on levels of interest, additional drivers, overlanders, anthropologists, archaeologists, geologists, personal itineries and the like. So, any out there who are interested, please send an email and, if you wish, you may outline your interests, skills, experiences, even your agendas or itineries. I can't promise luxury hotels (just campsites and Zeribahs) nor a comfortable ride (I have a Toyota Lancrusier VX so its quite comfortable over long distances, I can ssure you, but the rough terrain might not be to everyone's liking!). What can I can offer? well, at least, the usual, good food, good company, a taste of the Sahara, its rock art, its people and its wildlife. I generally go with good close friends of mine who've been driving in the desert for decades (backup, experience, company). They know the desert terrain better than any body else I know in France. Other interested parties are a couple of Germans, a couple of Brits, at least one Hungarian, plus a Swiss, a Norwegian, and at least two Americans. Hope to hear from any who are interested Please send Emails to "prhaupt@dial.pipex.com" attention of Renate or Al Faour thanks! Renate - Monday, January 22, 2001 at 12:59:23 (EST) URL: http:// Email: prhaupt@dial.pipex.com Address: 612 Southmead road, filton, Bristol, BS34 7RF, UK Affiliation: rock art researcher Comments: Anybody have any idea/information where I can obtain reviews of North African Rock Art research; Libya, Algeria, Egypt for my doctorate? Need them for a Literature Review. Also, anybody interested in joining my small team in the Libyan Sahara? I'm in Libya from, probably end of September 2001 onwards, 6 plus weeks all-terrain driving in 4x4, searching and looking out for rock art sites - my doctorate is on "Altered States" (i.e. like shamanism but a bit different than shamanism per se. The images I study are therianthropomorphic. If anybody interested, please email me - Monday, January 22, 2001 at 12:49:30 (EST) URL: http:// Email: prhaupt@dial.pipex.com Affiliation: Southampton and manchester universities Comments: Need to find rock art research reviews over the last few years in north African rock art; both paintings and engravings, but mainly paintings Konstanze Weltersbach - Thursday, January 18, 2001 at 08:32:03 (EST) URL: http:// Email: stanzi_w@hotmail.com Address: Zürich Comments: Hello! Maybe I am at the wrong place here, but I'll try: I just started to study anthropology and prehistory at the university of Zürich and I am interested in some kind of volunteer work in the UK in summer. Does anyone know where I get further informations? Thanks, Konstanze IFRAO 2002 won't be in FYROM (Former Yugoslavian Republic of Macedonia)! Please notice
The official position of Ifrao is that there won't be a IFRAO Congress in FYROM (Former Yugoslavian Republic of Macedonia) in 2002Dr. Dusko Aleksovski-macedonian Rock Art Centre - Tuesday, January 09, 2001 at 14:42:30 (EST) URL: http://under constructiom Email: karpumet@mt.net.mk Address: 91320 kratovo, Republic of Macedonia Affiliation: IFRAO Congress 2002 Comments: Internatioanal Rock Art Congress will be held in Macedonia-Skopje 14-21 July 2002 In a few days we will give you some more information including our Web site. For more information address Dr. Dusko Aleksovski 91320 Kratovo Republic of Macedonia fax:0**389-31-415-577 e-mail: karpumet@mt.net.mk rockart@unet.com.mk Macedonian Rock Artr Research Association in order to finish Rock Art activities in the whole territory of the Repuiblic of Macedonia offer for you 2 books=50 USA $ For more information please contact us. Thank you very much Robin Edgar - Saturday, January 06, 2001 at 17:56:12 (EST) URL: http://homepage.altavista.com/eye_of_god/index.html Email: robin_edgar@altavista.com Address: 15 Lafleur apt. 11, Verdun, Quebec, Canada H4G 3C3 Tel.: (514) 769-7322 Affiliation: Professional Photographer and Eclipse Lore Specialist Comments: I have been studying the influence of eclipses, especially total solar eclipses, on ancient humanity's religious consciousness since 1992 when I was confronted by an image of the "Eye of God" that is manifested in total solar eclipses. I have very good reason to believe that many, if not most, rayed sun petroglyphs, which are also recognized as "radiant divine eye" symbols or "compound sun/eye symbols" were originally inspired by this "Eye of God" that appears in the sky during total solar eclipses. My "Web Sight" at http://homepage.altavista.com/eye_of_god/index.html presents this thesis clearly with supporting images. My other "Web Sights" linked from http://homepage.altavista.com/treasures/index.htmlmay be of interest too, especially my 'Nazca Lines and the Eye in the Sky' "Web Sight" which presents a very plausible thesis that the Nazca Lines and geoglyphs were inspired by this "Eye of God" and other solar eclipse phenomena. I would very much appreciate it if people could send me, or direct me towards, more "rayed sun" petroglyph images and information. Any other petroglyphs that might be inspired by solar eclipse phenomena would be most appreciated as well especially SunBird images. Wishing all those who read this message a Happy New Millennium, Robin Edgar Gionata Consagra - Saturday, January 06, 2001 at 09:52:21 (EST) URL: http://www.geocities.com/consagra Email: Consagra@hotmail.com Comments: Ciao amici dell'arte rupestre...volevo solo comincarvi che il 2 febbraio 2001 a Lugano (svizzera,canton Ticino) si terrà un'interessante conferenza del prof. Sansoni ( che saluto...ciao UMBI!!!) sull'arte rupestre della Valcamonica. Chi volesse saperne di + basta che mi mandi un e-mail....BUON ANNO A TUTTI.....:O) con simpatia Gionata Beargulch Pictographs - Friday, January 05, 2001 at 22:43:01 (EST) URL: www.beargulch.net Email: bearglch@midrivers.com Address: Box 824, Grass Range, Montana 59032, USA Affiliation: Privately owned Comments: Offering working vacations to record and preserve a very large site on my central Montana ranch. Fernando Augusto Coimbra - Wednesday, January 03, 2001 at 19:27:03 (EST) URL: http:// Email: facoimbra@yahoo.com Address: Rua Heróis de Mucaba, Lote 6 - 1º Condeixa PORTUGAL Affiliation: Sociedade Portuguesa de Antropologia e Etnologia Comments: I'm researching the pentagram on the schemathic rock art of the Iberian Peninsula. I'll be most gratefull for informations about this subject (and also for pentagrams on rock art from elsewhere). All the informers will be quoted in the article that I'm preparing. Thanks in advance, Fernando A. Coimbra maintained by Footsteps of Man orme@rupestre.net last update on last message Scripts and Guestbook by Matt Wright at Matt's Script Archive |