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Date.....: 8-29-1997  Link.....: http://www.graffiti.org/axel/index.html   Descr....: int.work-group on graffiti-research ARCHIVE1@aol.com Kassel(Germany)graffiti-archive:30 000 do cumentsAxel Thiel (coordination) FREE access to students, data-bank:10 00 0 (mostly autopsied) entries, PERIODICAL: "Einf%FChrung in die Grafitti- Forschung/introduction to graffiti-research" (Kassel 1983ff) 27 vols.Voc abulary of graffiti-research (Kassel 1996)

Date.....: 8-29-1997  Link.....: http://savigliano.isiline.it/adquintum/   Descr....: BOLLETTINO DEL GRUPPO ARCHEOLOGICO «AD QUINTUM» COLLEGNO(TORINO) Link.....: http://savigliano.isiline.it/adquintum/8.html   Descr....: L'Archivio fotografico di Clarence Bicknel conservato presso l'Istituto e Museo di Antropologia dell'Università di Torino Link.....: http://savigliano.isiline.it/adquintum/7.html   Descr....: Inventario delle diapositive eseguite da Clarence Bicknell e Luigi Pollini nella Regione del Monte Bego presumibilmente negli anni tra il 1905 e il 1913 Link.....: http://savigliano.isiline.it/adquintum/3.html   Descr....: Lo studio del Masso di Cemmo 1 da parte di Giovanni Marro

Date.....: 8-28-1997  Link.....: http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Forum/5067/wes.html   Descr....: Bubalus - Wes Harvey's analysis and imaginative use of North African rock art.

Date.....: 8-19-1997  Link.....: http://www.umn.edu/marp/rockart/rockart.html Descr....: Site information on the Jeffers Petroglyphs

• Message....: Sehr geehrte Damen und Herren, wir mochte Sie mit diesem Schreiben herzlich um Ihren wissenschaftlichen Rat bitten: Vor ca. einem Jahr wurde in einer Oberallgæuer Hangwiese der abgebildete Felsen ausgegraben, weil er die bæuerliche Arbeit storte. Zur großen ?berraschung aller fanden sich auf dem Findling eingeschlagene/gekratzte Schriftzeichen. Der Stein wurde geborgen und vor dem Heimathaus aufgestellt. Wie ein ungelostes Rætsel liegt er nun dort, weil niemand die Zeichen auch nur grob datieren konnte, geschweige denn etwas uber ihren Ursprung oder ihre Bedeutung weiß.


Foto: http://www.essnet.de/ovh/aktuell.htm Zur besseren Sichtbarmachung ist die Schrift mit Kreide ausgefullt. Sie wurden uns eine sehr große Freude bereiten, wenn Sie uns auch nur Anhaltspunkte geben oder Informationsqellen benennen konnten, die mit der Materie vertraut sind.

Mit freundlichen und kollegialen Grussen,
Peter Fischer, VHS-Leiter
Jorg Sauer, Dipl.Ing., Leiter der stædt. Gartenbauabteilung

• Message....: WELCOME, the Pecos * Rio Grande Museum of Early Man has been expanding over the past year. As an evolving display museum, we how have many new subjects for the first time visitor. For those that been to our page in the past, there will be many changes. Please try and add to our list of visitors. http://www.concentric.net/~pecosrio

• Message....: To all interested parties - Please take the time to refer to the UMRARA web page, http://www.pclink.com/cbailey/IRAC2.html, for information regarding the submission of session proposals for the upcoming International Rock Art Congress to be held in Ripon, Wisconsin in 1999. The session proposals must be received by October 1, 1997. If you have any questions, please write or call:

• Dr. Jack Steinbring

Dept. of Anthropology
Ripon College
Ripon, Wisconsin

U.S.A. 54971
e-mail:steinbringj@mac.ripon.edu
FAX: 414-748-7243
Phone: 414-748-2937

 

• Message....: Just discovered your site while looking for information on Mongolian petroglyphs. I'm currently researching these as part of an MA in Archaeology. I'd welcome any information other readers might be able to give me on Mongolian sites. I've visited several myself during expeditions in 1994 and 1996. I'm also interested in stelea, especially those depicting images of the the Deer Goddess culture. I'd also like to make contact with others who may be researching this field, especially Mongolian researchers.

• Message....: To all concerned parties - Regarding the IRAC 99 session deadline posting - the correct address for the UMRARA web site is http://www.pclink.com/cbailey/IRAC2.html. My apologies for any inconvenience that this has created. -Charles Bailey

• Message....: our web page was www.uned.es/deptos/0702/lepra.htm it has been changed to www.uned.es/departamentos/0702/

• Message....: I am an American living in Mexico for 8 years with NO training but an intrest in archiology. In the past 3 months I have found several sites with rock carvings. Information here is hard to find. Can any one point me in a dirrection to get information on how to interpret thes carvings?

• Message....: The May issue of the National Pictographic Society News Letter is out. Members ship is $10.00. Mail to NPS, 221 Gowen Pl. Bainbridge, WA 98110, USA. Articles this month include: Background to the Foz Coa Rock Art Dating, by Robert G. Bednarik; AmS 14C dating of Early Anasazi Petroglyphs from the North American Southwest Desert region, an abstract by Warren Beck (that brings to issue the ambiguous results of Ron Dorn’s dating) and a reply to this article by Ron Dorn as well as his interpretation of the Coa Dating. A reply to his reply on the Coa Dating by Alan Watchman. CHECK IT OUT!

• Message....: As Director of the Department of Rupestrian Art of the Museum of Dominican Man, I am highly interested in establishing exchange relationship with your organization. We are interested in information regarding conservation, visitor regulations, latest studies, publications. Also, we are at your service in our department for any information you require.

• Message....: New page about applications of digital photography in analysis of palaeolithic rock paintings: http://ccaix3.unican.es/~cachor/INDEX.HTM

• Message....: Great page ! very useful for my study as a comparative to Indonesian rock art/cave painting

• Message....: I’m looking for any information about larger-than-life drawings on the ground. I think they are known as intaglios. Can anyone point me to resources on these drawings, where they are located and who did them, especially in the Americas.


Thanks

• Message....: I am writing to notify you of the action alert web page I have constructed for the Friends of the Albuquerque Petroglyphs (FOTAP).


It’s presently located at:
http://www.well.com/~rhenley/FOTAPalr.html
and uses the following graphic files: fotaphdr.jpg
hcnmap.jpg
hcnmaps.jpg
pglyph.gif
We also have a text based file of this alert available.
If you know of a good location on the internet to host this page, we hope you can copy it (and the support files) to that location so that more people may see it.
Please let us know the URL of any location it’s been posted to.
Thanks for your help,

• Message....: ESTOY INTERESADO EN ROCK ART.ESPERO INTERCAMBIAR IDEAS

• Message....: Cultore di Archeoastronomia, desidero poter conoscere le incisioni rupestri che certamente o probabilmente richiamano l’astronomia e, quindi, l’interesse che l’osservazione del cielo suscitava nei popoli che le hanno riprodotte. Grazie

• Message....: Detailed information about Prehistoric Rock Art in Spanish regions of Andalucia, Aragon, Catalunya, Castilla-La Mancha, Murcia and Valencia. Sights and description of the most representative prehistoric sites. Proposal for levantine Rock Art (“Arte Rupestre del Arco Mediterraneo de la Peninsula Iberica”) to be included within the UNESCO worlwide heritage.

• Message....: After having written a re-analysis of known (up to date 1995) rock art from Gabon, I am now working on a similar re-analysis of rock art from the whole of Central Africa. Book planned for 1998. Apart from that work to be published on the archaeology of Central Africa, Neolithic e.g. (Okala Group amongst other topics). Bernard.

• Message....: I have recently received information about a Rock art site near Guelph,Ont., that I’m told is an authentic site.If anyone can verify it’s authenticity in advance I would appreciate it. Contact me by e-mail for more info.

• Message....: I recently attended the rock art sessions at SAA and found them quite informative. As I work in the west it was particularly interesting to see and hear of work that is being accomplished in the east. However, I was disturbed by slides that were shown with chalked petroglyphs. Please tell me this isn’t still being done in some areas. Hopefully it was just some old slides. I really didn’t get a chance to ask about this after the talk. If anyone knows about this please let me know.

• Message....: I have finally completed my WebPage concerned with rock art. The argument that I make in my page is that rock art worldwide is driven by a single practice common to all hunter-gatherers: shamanism. It is a pretty neat page, with some very neat graphics. So please, stop by. http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Forum/3339/rockart.html

• Message....: I am doing a dissertation on the impact of new dates on the interpretation of parietal cave art in France and Northern Spain - any comments / ideas / new data Please!!!!

• Message....: Thank you for this tremendous resource and all the work that has gone into it.

• Message....: As a writer and photographer I’ve been working with rock-caringsfor more than thirty years. I’ve made a couple of books and have a special technique taking pictures of rock-carvings. I would like to know if anyone is interested get in touch with me. As I’m also president of the worlds first Bronze Age Society i Norrkoping Sweden. I want You to link us up. You can take a look at our site and give a mail if it’s OK: http://intranet.nsb.norrkoping.se/bronze. With regards from Bronze Age Sweden Pehr Hasselrot

• Message....: My art history class is currently researching the evolution of early art and the role of early artists in their culture. We would appreciate any information regarding “prehistoric” art

• Message....: I’m looking for petroglyph sites which include a human figure with a rainbow above his/her head. I’ve located one in Hawaii and several in Arizona. All information is appreciated.

• Message....: SONO LAUREATO IN LETTERE CON INDIRIZZO ARCHEOLOGICO E L’ARTE RUPESTRE MI HA FATTO SEMPRE IMPAZZIRE. CONTINUATE COSI’.

• Message....: Could anyone help me locate sites for rupestrian art I shouldn’t miss while visiting France?

• Message....: New Book: Rock Art of Kentucky Fred E. Coy, Jr. Thomas C. Fuller, Larry G. Meadows and James L. Swauger The University Press of Kentucky 663 South Limestsone Street Lexington, KY 40508-4008

• Message....: I am studying the prehistoric rock art in Western Europe, Southern Amerika and Eastern Asia, from the point of view of Art History. I am the member of AURA, and today I came to this site from AURA homepage for the first time. I am glad to know such pages existing and I will come back here repeatedly.

• Message....: I'm currently researching the methods used to date the art found at Valcamonica, Italy. The dating methods available for use compared to the ones employed may lead me to re-evaluate the age of the carvings. One of my colleagues is concurrently researching the Coa Valley, Portugal.

• Message....: Would like to participate. Have photos, data etc. on Baja Rock Art.

• Message....: Dear Sir, I am a High School Junior on the Navajo Reservation. We are studing acid rain. My question is, what are the effects of acid rain on archeological ruins? This area has hundreds of ancient Anasazi ruins dating back to 850 to 1300 A.D and the soil here is very sandy. Have there been any studies done on the effects of acid rain on such sights? Thanks for answering my question. Tara

• Message....: I am in the process of building an honours thesis on a genre of Australian Rock Art that is in many ways unique. It would be very helpful to me if I was to receive any useful information or questions. I feel the best thing for me to do is to refer you to my web page where my project is set out in some detail The location is: http://felix.antiquity.arts.su.edu.au/alt126barry/storefalt1261.htm


Regards - Michael Barry

• Message....: greetings.looks good.thanks.

• Message....: Congratulations for this website. Actually, I'm still studying history of art and archaeology in my university. I'm very interrested by rock art. Thanks to my professor (Marcel Otte), I had the opportunity to see Lascaux, severals others sites of southern France (Niaux, Combarelles, Font de Gaume, etc), Norwegian engravings, Valcamonica, Navettas in Malta and Altamira. Your website will help us to doscover other engravings and paintings from other part of the world.Thank you.

• Message....: Rock Art in Coahuila Desert in Mexico

• Message....: Sumamente muy interesante las publicaciones que presentan.Mis deseos que sigan adelante .Sinceramente


Daniel Castillo
Administrador Lista Arqueologia Red Cientifica Peruana

• Message....: I want to show my homepage about ancient stones in korea. Just click : http://www3.aminet.co.kr/~kbyon/home.htm Nature Art and Dolmes in korea page address : http://www3.aminet.co.kr/~kbyon/dolmen.htm

• Message....: Old-world scripts on American stones

• Message....: I am currently studing archaeology and would be interested to hear from anyone with ideas connected to prehistoric art and possible semi religious or cerimonial hypothesis

• Message....: Lovely site. Looking for Ogham.

• Message....: I would like any information that is available on the Cosquer Cave. I can’t seem to find it on the net, even though the search for that title takes me to Rock Art Links. A www URL would be fine. Thanks. Sandy

• Message....: I work with rock art in southern New Mexico. Would welcome discussion

• Message....: Twice annual newsletter. Field trips, both local and abroad. Conservation Projects. Annual membership is $ 15.00. Also, the Bay Area Rock Art Conservation and Education Fund seeks tax deductible donations for the purpose of engaging in Conservation and education projects in Northern California. Currently, the Ring Mountain Petroglyphs are our #1 conservation priority. However, it is also time to make public comment on the Resource Managemnt Plan being developed to protect the very fragile paintings at the Vasco Caves (Altamont Pass, Livermore). Contact East Bay Regional Parks re: these. On the education front, BARARA is working with the Bancroft Library, UC-Berkeley, to establish a Northern California Rock Art Archive. Materials have been donated and are presently under curation.

• Message....: Southeastern Archaeological Conference Birmingham, Alabama, USA 11/7/96. Informal meeting of the Eastern States Rock Art Research Association after the afternoon symposium Rock Art 2. Cave Art. Time and Place to be announced.

• Message....: Please help! I am writing a paper on Pecos River Region Pictographs. I need resources for both cultural and artistic aspects. ASAP! Thank You. - kj

• Message....: Please send me any information possible on the Cave of Lascaux, recent archaeological digs or finds, Crete in Greece, Colleges available in the U.S. with major archaeology courses, or anything on Prehistoric Art. Thank-you to anyone who can help me with this search!!!!

• Message....: I love Archaeology and Anthropology and hope that other people will soon learn to love and appreciate it's magestic tranquility!!!

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• Message....: Saluti a tutti. I miei complimenti per questa opera meravigliosa da voi creata spero di sentirvi presto.

• Message....: Subject: Chauvet: climate at -32K


Fm: Philip Benz [100575.2061@compuserve.com]
To: All
RE Paleolithic Climate at 32,000 BP:
I'm writing about the Grotte Chauvet and need a few pointers concerning climate. All the material I've got on hand about climate goes no further back than the Solutreen (20K BP), the period the Grotte Chauvet was originally assumed to fit into, so until I can get round to more research I thought I'd ask here. I assume 32K BP is also deep in the ice age, but anything more specific about the climate and vegetation in the Rhone river valley at that time would help.
As long as I'm at it, here are a few other questions:
Nearly all of my sources are in French, so I'm a little uncertain what terms to use when refering to certain artifacts like stone tools. Could someone post a brief list of the predominant tool forms associated with Mousterian, Chatelperronien and Aurignacien culture? I'm also unsure just where the Levallois technique falls -- late Mousterian?
The C14 dates for Chauvet are in the 30-32K BP range. Whether that places the site within the Aurignacien, Chatelperronien or even Mousterian cultural settings is open to question -- the paintings could concievably even be the work of Neanderthal! Either that, or Neanderthal and Cro-magnon cohabited the region, as in Qafzeh. Combier has proposed dates of 31K and 27K BP for two Mousterian sites in Ardeche.
So the question is, could Neanderthal have been an artist too? Could Chauvet be the work of Neanderthal art at its summit, and the torch scrapings from some 5000 years later evidence of visits by Cro-magnon learning his technique?
Any discussion or comments on Chauvet or parietal art in general would be a *great* help.
Cheers, --- Phil

• Message....: I’m interested in learning abour image enhancement techniques to recuperate latent images from faint or badly eroded petroglyphs. Digital photography, infrared, etc. I would appreciate information on where I can find more information. I will keep you as a favorite place and will look forward to the completion of your methods site.

• Message....: send me mail. I’m a newcomer and could use some help

• Message....: Helping a friend research the cave drawings at Lascaux, Dordogne, France. He is planning a trip to see this site. Seeking any links and info available.Thank you for any help provided.

• Message....: Amigos: requiero mas informacion atentamente. Daniel Castillo

• Message....: I will be very glad to receive all the informations about the Rupestrian Archaeology Web Board

• Message....: I am interested in petroglyphs from around our planet. My own work in stone has spurred this research. Central America is a special area of interest.

• Message....: Hello, I am interested in charmstones, particularly in shapes of animals and phallic forms outside of California. Any references or publication citations are appreciated.